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A Course About Game Balance

Posted on January 28, 2022 By GDC 24 Comments on A Course About Game Balance



In this 2016 GDC session, game designer and educator Ian Schreiber presents a summary of his college-level course in game …

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Comments (24) on “A Course About Game Balance”

  1. TrailBlazer5280 says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    I love his point about "good" and "bad" at math being cultural. Along with so many other things in our society

  2. Matthias Max says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Wow, an overview of their college course, very helpful xD

  3. Tara G says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    This class is masterfully crafted. I look forward to seeing what Ian creates in the future. So happy he is making a textbook so more students can benefit. Brilliant!

  4. Brodysseus says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    27:27 literally tell them something like "Think like a scientist, question everything" or "You have to be kinda OCD about this"

  5. B Fo says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Brilliant course, I find this very important and wish we had had more of it in our class. As a kid I would play managing a farm with wood blocks and use beads to keep track of my beads, optimizing the costs of me doing things until it was most fun to play all day, funny how easy and intuitive that seemed back then and how much of a hard time I am having now to do the same thing as an adult sitting before a spreadsheet.

  6. Jonathan Jollimore says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    If it's a multiplayer game the rules is if players can break something they WILL break it.

  7. TheRedBaron says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    This is the course that blizzard forgot to take.

  8. Skiddzie says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    some people are definitely better at math than others, just cause you have to learn it doesn't mean there isn't innate ability involved

  9. NagsterTheGangster says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    This reminds me of the Simpsons episode where Lisa proves bully's beat up nerds because of nerd pheromones and someone in the crowd is always like: "Let's not listen to her!" lol
    Not that i'm talking about the crowd here, I've just played a lot of UNbalanced games.

  10. Crystal Guardian says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    I got this same look going with the glasses and long hair. I guess I fit in with the game dev crowd.

  11. meixo says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    The Q&A part confirms me to never allow Questions after a speech

  12. adam says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Is this course still available if so where and how can I take it? I hope theres an online version of it

  13. Berkay Engin says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    I am not a developer or game designer but i have been only playing games and have been using all those methods you have mentioned not to balance but to exploit lol

  14. robrobusa says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Single player save scumming is fine, unless you want to explicitly challenge yourself. Change my mind.

  15. SAOIF Channel says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    here after genshin backlash a.k.a yoimiya and ei

  16. Da' Vane says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    How do I sign up?

  17. Omniludis Omniludis says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    I still don't understand why a game need to adjust itself to the incorrect perception that players have on probabilities. This will never help them learn the correct way probability works, it just makes everyone more entrenched in their wrong beliefs.

    I see it very often in TCGs, where players complain about things that are not only relatively likely to happen, but are actually the MOST PROBABLE outcome.

  18. GlassDeviant says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Playing at 0.75 speed gives the lecture a more normal speed…and the lecturer a more human sound, vs chipmunk.

  19. sayntfuu says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Clicker games were what finally broke the code for me. The only difference between Cookie Clicker and wow is people, scale, and illusion.

  20. WvWladimir says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    My opinion: Games are not balanced on purpose, if game is balanced everyone would be successful in game, cuz if game is fair there is only so much you can learn and you will eventually get to the end. Unbalanced or unfair game is endless game. System is made to keep you at 50% , not low enough to make you quit and not high enough to make game boring.

  21. $L¡ČĶ says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    Send this to the rainbow six siege developpers, please.

  22. Daniel Thomas says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    oh we just throw it all into a spreadsheet and let the algorythm decide if a card is balanced or not ….
    no wonder most tcg's are currently flaming hot messes, especially MTG banning cards before sets are even released now XD

  23. Hannah Winter says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    4:35ade me think of how mtg starts with 20 lives and ygo starts with 8000 so in ygo you have phrases like "pay 1000 LP" that sound so jarring in mtg lol

  24. Jorjun Morre says:
    January 28, 2022 at 2:11 pm

    we understand so much about how to make the games that have already been made.

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